tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN January 20, 2012 10:00pm-11:00pm EST
that he is -- he's brilliant, he's so good with so many of the issues, but he's a man of conviction, and deep faith, and he's a man who has the courage to lead. >> it's been a real pleasure meeting you and your lovely wife karen and your family. best of luck tomorrow. >> the santorums. that's all we have time for tonight. "ac 360 starts now." >> thanks very much. good evening, it's 10:00 here on the east coast. we're coming to you live from the south carolina. i want to welcome the viewers to the college of charleston, an incredibly enthusiastic crowd here. everybody has welcomed us so warmly. we appreciate it. a thought of enthusiasm in the state of south carolina tonight, and we begin with raw paul tblgs. down to the bire. the primary, first in the south is tomorrow.
newt gingrich is siurging. mitt romney is admitting that tomorrow end in defeat for him. speaker gingrich has come back, had a strong performance in a debate monday night and a strong performence last night. >> your ex-wife gave an interview with abc news. in it, she said you came to her in 1999, at a time where you were having an affair, she said you asked her, sir, to enter into an open marriage. would you like to take time to respond to that. >> no, but i will. i think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office, and i'm appalled that you would
begin tapresidential debate on a tuppic like that. >> is that all you want to say, sir? >> let me finish. >> please. >> every person in here knows personal pain. every person in here has had someone close to them go through painful things. to take an ex-wife and make it two days before the primary, a significant question in a presidential campaign is as close to despicable as anything i can imagine. >> last night, our david gergen called that the most dramatic moment in debate history. abc news is pushing back hard on another claim, that he offered
up his friends from back then to refute the story. he said they weren't interested, but they said, quote, we would have been pleased to bring forlth anyone they brought forward. here is gary tuchman. >> on the day before the polls open in south carolina, a new tactic for newt gingrich on the question of his relationship with the second wife. >> mr. speaker, is it valid to bring up personal issues in the campaign? >> a reporter who tripped seemed to get his attention, so we asked again. >> are personal issues va s val the campaign to bring up. >> his answer is a 180 from yesterday when he was standing with his wife and was asked a question by a man attending one of his rallies. >> i have been open to mistakes i made, going to god for the secrets of conciliation. >> then thee talked about it about reporters. >> this is an issue i confront
every time it comes up, and people seem to be satisfied with it. you watched the audience. >> the next president. >> during the last two days, gingrich's crowds have grown bigger and clolouder as the sta get larger. on the eve of the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary, but knew he wasn't going to win, but he believes victory in south carolina is within his grasp. >> if we win on saturday with your help, i believe i will become the nominee because i think south carolina in fact has an enormous impact. you picked the winner every single primary since 1980. and i believe that we will go on to win florida and then we'll go on to win the nomination. >> do you think it's critical that you win here in south carolina? >> i think it's critical you win as often as you can. this is -- the number one thing we now know is that when this becomes a two-person race, that romney has a huge problem
because he's too liberal for most republican voters. >> as gingrich's poll numbers have increased, so have his sphe spirits. he's belted out the one-liners talking about president obama's visit to disney world. >> the president standing with mickey mouse on one side and gingrich on the other. >> if it doesn't have a strong performance in south carolina which neighbors his home state of georgia, he'll be increasingly unlikely to hear things like this for real. >> mr. president -- >> not yet, but with your help. >> gary tuchman, cnn, charleston, south carolina. >> joining us now, our political panelists with us, former jourj w. bush secretary, ari fleisc r fleischer, eric erickson, and roeld rolen martin. is this surge so powerful he could win tonight? >> absolutely. >> do you think he will?
>> i do. i predict newt gingrich is going to win south carolina. i spoke to several leading south carolina republicans today who know the state in and out. and they thought he would win by a small margin. i spoke to a pollster who thinks he's going to win big. the ground has it started shifted monday. i think he wins. >> do you agree with the prediction, and what went wrong for romsny. >> the debate on monday and then the debate last night sealed it for him. gingrich had a huge amount of momentum. after monday, the polling shifted dramatically, and last night locked it in. this was also a proxy fight between the governor who endorsed mitt romney and the speaker who endorsed gingrich. he's fired it up to get grass roots activists to get to the
polls tomorrow, and i think newt is going to win. >> if he does win, what do you think that means moving forward? >> the same thing we said on the night of the iowa caucus. this is going to be a fight to the end over a period of months. far too many journalist say he wins two, three, four, and it's over. absolutely not. perry drops out this week. what happened if santorum comes in fourth, will he stay in? ron paul is not going anywhere. this is going to go until april or may. >> ron paul is not leaving? >> at the end of the day, this is a race for delegates. this is not how many states you win. can you get to 1445. so mitt romney's focus should be on the long run. >> if santorum stays in, do you think he'll place fourth. is paul strong enough for a third? >> he is strong enough for a third. you had the eval jengelicals co
out and endorse santorum. and i think you'll start seeing them rally towards gingrich against romney in florida. and florida has had its delegates cut. this is a race for delegates, not states. you're only going to have 5% of delegates selected by the end of this month. you have 95% of the delegates still out there. >> they both want to be the lone conservative standing, they're not willing to blink. >> santorum has 93 chance to blink. newt can assemble something. santorum had a great night in iowa. it is going to come down to a newt/romney race, with ron paul hanging in there. if mitt romney could have delivered the knockout punch, he would have chased everybody out of the race. >> the money will flow to gingrich in a way it didn't.
and santorum could go to all 99 counties in iowa. >> you think evangelicals in florida will go to santorum. they're supporting gingricgingr. >> the issue with the ex-wife, does that turn evangelicals against him? he's beating santorum among evangelcons 2-1, and he's seen as a southern evangelical. >> after last night, we can forget the notion that the gop is a fparty of family values. if they're saying newt is okay, they're saying the stuff they have said for 30 years is irrelevant. throw that out. >> no. >> come on now, you can't say it's about morality, about character. you talk about morality, character, integrity. that tells me when you say that's the most important thing, obviously, now, it's not the most important thing.
>> in a field of flawed candidates, you go with the best against barack obama. >> whatever the balance newt gets out of here is going to be a submerged balance. don't write mitt romney off in florida. this keeps going. >> this is really has been a fascinating race. everybody has been in the lead at one time or another. how far can it go? at what point will there be -- >> until somebody hits 1445. >> remember, after florida, a lot of the initial races after florida favor mitt romney. then you get into super tuesday with texas, georgia has the largest field outside of texas, which actually texas has moved beyond that, so you'll have georgia, newt's home state, dominating super tuesday. >> this will turn into what i said early on, who will do well in the west, the southwest, the southeast, the midwest. it wasn't all about one person can knock it all out.
that's what it boils down to. >> on the other hand, everybody's predictions have been wrong. >> they are every year, but we keep making them. what else are we going to talk about. thanks very much. let us know what you think. we're on facebook, google plus, follow me on twitter at anderson cooper. ahead, we got word from a top gingrich adviser, predict the margin of victory tomorrow. he's predicted it. we'll tell you what he said. also tonight, we'll take a look at the tradition of dirty tricks here in south carolina. newt gingrich becoming a target of a fake e-mail sent to republican voters claiming -- we'll tell you about it after the break. >> politics down here can be very, very rough, plus a lot more on romney's eroding advantage and what may be responsible for it. >> also new developments in the cruise disaster. stunning developments about what the captain did after the ship hit the rocks. that's not all.
will be giving away free copies of the alcoholism & addiction cure. to get yours, go to ssagesmalibubook.com. welcome back. we're here with a very large crowd on the campus of the college of charleston. one of the most beautiful college campuses i have ever seen. we have late word from the gingrich campaign tonight. in fact, you can call it
boasting, really. one of his top south carolina advisers is predicting a win and predicting the margin of that win by four to six points. newt gingrich seemed to use last night as a springboard as he did the debate on monday. for mitt romney, it may have been a stumbling block. he has struggled with two perceptions, that he's out of touch with americans and he's a flip-flopper. fair or not, he's had a hard time shaking the charges and he had a hard time last night. >> back in 1969, your father set a ground breaking standard in american policy. he released his tax return. he released them not for one year but for 12 years. will you follow your father's example? >> maybe. you know, i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll take a look at what your documents are -- and i'll release a multiple years, i don't know how many
years, but i'll be aphappy to do that. let me tell you, i know there are some who are anxious to see if they can't make it more difficult for a campaign to be success. i know the democrats want to go after the fact i have been successful. i'm not going to apologize for the fact i have been successful. >> the was last night. we caught up with governor romney today. >> you were booed and jeered -- >> talking about the tax return. >> from the audience, and different campaign s cheer and boo based on their campaign. >> if i could finish my question, are you concerned that the way you have answered that question might feed into the feeling that some republicans have that you are a waffler? >> no, at the very beginning, i indicated i hadn't any plans to release my tax returns. then it became clear that was of great interest to everyone. >> jim accososta joins us with
gloria borger and john king. they were cruising sooteal the victory with three states, he didn't turn out to win iowa, and it's possible he could lose in south carolina. what happened? >> a number of things, number one as you discussed in the previous discussion, speaker gingrich attacking the news media, also has proven for month he's a strongest of these candidates in the debate settings. and if you looked at romney's camp, not releasing the tax returns has fed into the perception it's about mitt romney, and his debate performances haven't been as steady. romney seems a little shaky. playing it safe because they thought they had a double digit lead. i talked to a top romney campaign adviser who conceded
throw the momentum was going the other way, they hoped the organization could pull out a victory, but their expectation tonight is that gingrich wins. >> i want to play a clip of mitt romney's trying to lower expectations here in south carolina. take a look. >> speaker gingrich is from a neighboring state, well known, popular in the state. i knew we would have a long road ahead of us. to be in a neck and neck race at this last moment is kind of exciting. >> it sounds like he's already trying to come up with a reason for a loss here. >> it does, anderson. you have to keep in mind during the cnn debate, he called newt gingrich a creature of washington. here he is saying he hails from a neighboring state. he's trying to clean up what looks like a loss in south caroli carolina. we should point out he has had conflicting statements all week on the tax returns. monday night, he said he might release them. tuesday, he said i'll release the 2011 returns.
today, he said i'll have multiple returns later on this spring. and he's trying to turn the tables and say newt gingrich, you release the ethics report you had in the 1990s. that's already online, available online. >> and gingrich blasted mitt romney for saying, release anything, essentially, you have no business talking about releasing anything if you won't release your tax returns. >> the irony is what does mitt romney have to hide. he told people he played a 15% rate. people want to lower taxes. not raise taxes. people already know that he tithes his income to the mormon church. there doesn't seem to be anything to side, so why make it seem as if there is? the bottom line is mitt romney seems very uncomfortable in talking about his own personal wealth. that has become a problem with
him because he's trying to relate to middle class voters and he hasn't managed to make that connection. >> why do you think that is? why the lack of comfort talking about it, and the question you asked last night, and you know, mentioning his father releasing 12 years of his returns, it highlighted his discomfort. >> they have known for years this was coming. it was a slielt issue, his wealth, in the last campaign. the obama campaign, before some of his republican rivals took tup, and that's where it was complicated, if it was just the democratic campaign, he could say in the republican primary, i'm not going to bow to the democrats. but santorum and perry added it on, too. why? they were looking for something that would work to stop romney's momentum. i talked to one of his top campaign advisers, and they said he has nothing to hide. he's a private person and
they're having a hard time at the staff level convincing him he needs to be more transparent. he has released a financial disclosure sheet. he views this as an invasion of privacy, but they have stressed the urgency of figuring it out. >> in florida, where his race moves next, there are two debates scheduled for next week. it's amazing, the degree to which speaker gingrich has been able to use these debates to propel himself forward. >> you know, the debates for newt gingrich have been the primaries that he's on because once he sort of got on the landscape there, he is a terrific debater. he's also a knife fighter. he is very good at attack politics. he knows how to deit in a debate. you saw what happened last night in the debate. mitt romney gave him a bye on the personal allegations against him, and he went right back at
mitt romney. didn't say thank you, just started getting him on the taxes. you can assume he's going to continue doing this because he want to show republicans that he's a fighter and he can go up against barack obama. mitt romney has to show that he can battle. >> mitt romney still is the one who has the organization, who has the ground forces and the money. >> that's right, and this race changes once it gets outside of south carolina. newt gingrich can claim victory and it will be a big victory. romney was mr. inevitable on monday. he's not that person anymore, but when it gets to florida, we're talking about multiple media markets where it takes lots of money to campaign, and mitt romney has the organization on the ground and the super pac that is going to flood the zone the way it has south carolina. >> inevability isn't a campaign term. >> we should mention one thing, gingrich and romney may be at the same place tomorrow on the
campaign trail. they're supposed to be in tommy's ham house, sort of the ham handed way it has been handled this week. maybe not a lot of ham on hand. >> thanks very much. john as well, still ahead, raw politics. the latest dirty tricks in south carolina. a lot of heistry in the state. phony e-mails send to republicans on the eve of the primary. newt gingrich the target of the spear mootonight. >> also, disturbb new details of how long it took the crew on the cruise ship to reaction to the disaster. there's a new video where you see crew members telling people to go back to their rooms, every is under control.
welcome back. we're near the college of charleston tonight in south carolina. a huge crowd here. hundreds of people, actually. a lot of people turning out. a lot of excitement in the state about what is going to happen tomorrow. we want to focus on the raw politics, dirty tricks in south carolina aimed at stopping newt gingrich's momentum. a phony e-mail that was made to look like a cnn news alert was sent to republicans in south carolina from a fake e-mail account. here's what it said, and again, this is completely fake. a source close to marianne gingrich tells cnn that former house speaker newt gingrich
forced her to abert a pregnancy that preceded her marriage to gingrich. cnn didn't send this e-mail. it's not true. it's false. it comes on the heels of marianne gingrich giving the interview to abc that caused controversy. the second is newt gingrich responds to allegations. it says, i have said many times that i am not a perfect human being and i have made mistakes in my life. this is one of them. again, this is all fake. it sounds like a confession, but it's fake. wheer is what gingrich said about the e-mails today. >> i am sick of the kind of dishonest campaigns that we see. where people go out and fake someone else's material for the purpose of causing trouble 24 hours before a primary. this is not worthy of our
children and grandchildren and it's not worthy of america. it's not funny. it's not a game. it undermines our capacity to govern ourselves. >> dirty politics, most definitely. surprising in south carolina? not all that surprising. here is tom foreman. >> i'm sick santorum. >> with the race steadily tightening, they're making sure south carolinians know, he went on laura ingram's show and endorsed mitt romney. >> there's only one place to go right now, and that's mitt romney. >> problem is, that was in 2008. santorum calls it another case of dirty pool in a state famous for that. >> massachusetts moderate mitt romney, he can't be trusted. >> ron paul is not a moderate republican. >> ads filled with half truths and innuendos are filling the air wave and internet.
santorum's wife was attacked in a flyer about a relationship with a doctor before she met santorum. it says, did you know rick santorum's wife karen had a six-year affair with an abortionist. in 2008, fake christmas cards, supposingly from his wife and mitt romney, appeared reminding people of the mormon faith. they drew a parallel between obama's campaign and jesse jackson. and in 2000, as george w. bush battled john mccain, an anonymous rumor arose that mccain's adopted daughter was from an affair with a black woman. not true. why did things get so raw in the state? it's simple. those candidates who are leading want to knock everybody out of the race, and those who are trailing see it as the last chance to throw some punches no matter how dirty it gets. tom foreman, cnn, washington.
>> a lot of mud flying around south carolina. joining me, david gergen and gloria borger. it's harkable, the history of dirty politics. >> it's always been a contact sport in south carolina. we're see aglot of it this year, but overall, i have to tell you, i think we're seeing lisz this year. there's not as much race being ejected into the campaign as we have in the past. often, candidates have been attacked because they're too close to blacks or they're in a marriage or have a child. we're not seeing that. we're seeing a barrage of negative advertising. >> what do you make of the surge of newt gingrich? >> i'm struck not only is he surging here, but gallup came out with a national tracking poll, and over the course of the
week, mitt romney's lead over gingrich has gone from 23 point to 10 point, and they said the lead is collapsing. that is strikingering me, meani there's something bigger going on. >> to see the e-mail circulating to realize there are these dark tricks that are still out there. >> they are still out there. it's not the way it used to be. lee atwater was sort of a republican, famous republican operative who prided himself on knowing how to deal with those kind of dirty tricks. i think we're seeing more transparent campaigns. on the other hand, the super pacs have come in and kind of replaced all of the old sort of negative dirty tricks because they don't have to disclose who they are. they say, we're restore our f h future, great for america, whatever, and they have taken off where the dirty tricks left
off. it's just different. >> david, let's talk about the race, for months now, people have been saying, look, romney is really set up for the long game. for the long war. he's got the organization, the money. can gingrich -- if he is really a viable candidate, which people in the state are saying yes, he seems to be, is he set up for a long game? >> he's not. he's not. and i think you would have to say whatever happens here, that mitt romney remains a front runner. but there is something going on, anderson, that i think is bigger. and that is if newt gingrich wins here tomorrow and santorum doesn't do well, which looks like we're heading toward, then it could become a two-man race, which is what gingrich wanted. he felt if we can get it to two-man, i can beat him, and the money will start coming in. that kind of thing, support from the strong conservative group. that conceivably could happen. >> let's talk about ron paul. where does he move from here? >> he moves right along.
ron paul's support has been consistent, and he's got the org zalgz. he's got the organization in states coming um, particularly a state like nev mev. >> and enthusiasm. >> enthusiasm, young voters. i think ron paul is going to continue to remain a constant here, and he may take it to the convention, for example, and i think that the race between newt and romney is going to get darker and nastier because i think the romney people have a stack this big of opposition research on newt gingrich, and i think they're going to start throwing it back at him. and they haven't done that so far. >> going to be fascinating. david and gloria, thank you. tina is going to replay the debate at 4:00 p.m. tomorrow, and the live coverage starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern. all the latest, live from what is going on in the state.
coming up, disturbing developments as we piece together what happened in the costac concordia cruise ship ra aboard. crew members telling passengers to go back to their cabin. also ahead, four members of florida a&m university arrested on hazing charges. nothing to do with the death of the drum major. we'll have that coming up.
hours worth of disturbing new develops in the cruise ship deswad deisted disa disaster. it's disturbing the details are because it's looking like the 11 people who died there and the 21 people who were missing might still be alive if the captain and the crew had reacted differently, had reacted better than the risky course steered the boat into a rock. the rock still lodged in the hull. it's hard to imagine downplaying the seriousness of the situation. but according to the coast guard log, 14 minutes past 10:00 p.m. local time, more than half an hour after impact, no one on board had even called the italian coast guard. people onshore had called the coast guard after worried relatives onboard called them. so the coast guard reached out to the concordia, was want the
>> crew member saying nothing to worry about. not to the coast guard, not forparages, it's remarkable to see that video. yet, within an hour or so, those passengers were scrambling for thav their lives crawling outside the ship and down the other side. the question is, did some never make it because they listened to the announcement and made it back to their cabin and didn't make it out again. some may still be in the cabins. where was the captain schettino after it hit the rock. he was allegedly with a woman ordering dinner. >> the captain insisted on having a meal at 10:30. he arrived with a woman who i didn't recognize. we wondered what was going on. at that time, we really felt something was wrong. the stuff in the kitchen was falling off shelves and we
realized how grave it was. i had 12 years of experience as a cook on a cruise ship, i even witnessed fire so i wasn't that scared, but i wondered what the captain was doing, why was he still there. way gave him his drink. after that, he was waiting for the dessert to be served to the woman he was with. >> waiting for dessert, he was waiting for dessert while his ship was sinking. he would later desert the ship. his latest excuse was he tripped and fell into the life boat. first he denied it. then he told the coast guard he could better coordinate the rescue from there. the commander went bolelubis ba ordered him to get back on board. he never did. he said he tripped, fell, stumbled, and fell into a lifeboat along with his top life boats. authorities are testing his hair and urine to see if he was drunk or high or otherwise chemically
impaired. then the woman he was dine with, a young costa employee traveling on vacation. she is defending him, saying he stayed onboard until midnight and she stayed with him in case he needed a translator. >> translator: i was asked to remain on deck because i speak five languages so i was there in case we needed to make a last anouchbsment. i was with the captain, 20 officers, and the director of the trip who flied in on the slip. we were waiting for orders from the captain to pass on orders. >> that's what she's telling authorities. i want to get a passenger's take on all of these developments. we spoke to someone earlier this week, georgia, who was one of the last passengers along with her husband, arthur, to leave. she joins us now from los angeles. thanks for being with us.
si since we spoke, new details have emerged from the disaster. i want to take your reaction from a letter than an employee wrote to a newspaper. we can't confirm the authenticity, but he said, i have read, seen, and heard so much nonsense with bitterne nen from the survivors who resorted to sensationalism than information. what do you think of that? >> i was most angry when i read that and heard that. i just cannot believe that they would make a statement like that. actually, words can't even adequately describe the story. it's a lot more sen sassationaln is reported by word of mouth, and i think it is absolutely a crime to be talking this way about people that have died and people that are injured and for them to do this, i was very, very angry when i heard it yesterday. but i am just incensed by all of
this. this is ridiculous, but it has been typical of the response that costa cruise line, carnival cruise line, and the staff have done all long. it's hurtful and it's got to stop. it's a defamation of the character of the people who died here and all of us who suffered from the horrendous event. >> and i mean, you at multiple times, you said good-bye to your family members. you had somebody hand you their baby because they didn't think they were going to make it. >> that's right. that's exactly what happened. that was just one incident of four snenlts where we did say our good-byes and we thought it was the end. and the only way people got off the ship is that each person helped each other. we pulled people to safety, people pulled up to safety. for them to make statements like that is so hurtful. >> what do you make, too, of the claim now by one of the ship's cooks that the captain actually
ordered dinner and was waiting for dessert while the ship was filling up with water? >> well, i'm going to tell you, after we got on the island of gig le giglio, we conversed with some of the people on the island, and they said he was a person who partied hard. they were surprised he wasn't having a party at the time, and it upsets me, there were 20 other officers there while that lady was trying to interpret. why weren't they on the deck trying to help meme and give orders and direction. and i never heard an order to put on your life jacket, never. >> georgia i appreciate you being with us, and i'm so happy you and your family are stable. we'll continue to talk with you as new developments keep coming in. >> new developments also here. it's getting so dangerous the state department is considering closing the u.s. embassy in damascus. >> also, arrests in a florida
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a thirty bulletin. the united states is considering closing its embassy in syria because of security concerns. that's according to senior officials who say only a handful of embassy staffers remain in damasc damascus. >> in georgia, the results are in for the killer of a 7-year-old by an maintenance worker. he hanged himself in his prison cell. >> four members of a florida marching band have been arrested on hazing charges that date back to accept. the charges run related to the november hazing death of a student. that investigation is ongoing. >> singer etta james has tied. ♪ at last
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight, we're adding a cougar controversy that has sunk its teeth into one town in utah. a new high school is opening, and students were asked to name a mascot. they took a vote and decided they wanted to be the cougars. the school superintendant said he got calls and complaints from
parents who said many have commented on the negative double entendre of the word cougar. as all students here know, they're not talking about john mellencamp, and i realize i'm dating myself, they weren't even born when "jack and diane" was released. you don't know anything. they don't teach you anything these days. anyway, a little ditty about parents freaked ow about going to a high school where the mascot is a cougar because it also happened to be a slang word for an older woman dating a man. they're not thinking so much about this kind of cougar but this kind of cougar. >> hi, i'm tony. welcome to the cougar den. i treated myself to a jonas brothers concert. >> you deserve it. >> i was thrown out. >> what happened? >> i was rocking out, pumping my fist, when my menopause patch
flew off and went into a young girl's mouth. >> they decided to scrap the choice for mascot. they're not going to be the cougars. they're going to be the chargers instead. that makes me think of my blackberry. but it's not as sexually charged as the name cougars. there are plenty more mascots that are trojan worthy, it's not like the kids wanted to call themselves the corner canyon crackpipes or anything. still, now that i think about it, what kind of a stupid mascot is cougar anyway. what kind of school -- wait a minute, i'm sorry. i'm sorry. that's right. that's right, we are indeed broadcasting from the home of, you guessed it, the cougars. that's right. the